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    ​ (dorkvalized@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Thursday, 04-Jun-2026 14:59:35 JST ​ ​
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    @p @Nimbius666 > I ain't said that FDR was not a murderous psychopath, just that Stalin was.
    “Look, maybe FDR was a murderous psychopath – even though I’m not calling him one – but I’m calling Stalin being one, that I do, yes”
    Names, names, names…

    > "Yeah but you" is some shit I…
    …that you’ve started here. I was speaking of Germany, and you seem to have taken it personally, for some reason. Taking a glance at the timeline, I understand the reason, why the attention may be not so good, as well as the cause of irritation after discussing a Latvian retard. Still, I hoped that this conversation could be at least a degree more substantial. Alas.

    > "If you hide grain, you're an enemy of the state" is already bad enough.
    Hide as in “refuse to give a portion of grain that’s due to the state and proportionate to the acreage of land, and pretend you don’t have any”. Don’t make me recite centuries old papers, it’s not a funny pastime.

    > To do those things *unsuccessfully* was the crime.
    The “success” being continuing to exploit the local farmers like under tzars, but now on the burned down land, giving the people grain in credit with a high interest, so that they will have to work on your gang’s fields this and the next year, and get them into the good old debt loop that is impossible to break?

    > Stalin does it and because his revolutionaries won, he was the law.
    I can see why Vatican, Monaco or some Sealand (lol) may neglect offences to the law. But I thought you were living in a country somewhat bigger than that.

    > Sounds like a goddamn hero, yes.
    My bad, “owed”. It’s been too long since my day started.

    > I'll call anyone whatever names.
    I’d like to think, that the street is only a street, if I didn’t remember what Plutarch wrote about two youths in “Dionisius the Elder”.

    > I'll say… but I'll hedge
    Choose one.

    > Well, I'll grant you, if I shit on Hitler or Lenin people argue
    I can see, why, but I probably wouldn’t agree with any of them.

    > but if I shit on Stalin, almost no one ever does.
    By that logic, if no one spoke of Australia, it shouldn’t exist. What would we do without atlases and encyclopedias…

    > See Khrushchev's speech, which agrees with the historical record in the US.
    “My state approves this version of the history of your country”? Well, if you’re going to stand on Khruschiov’s point, I have good news for you: when the USSR collapsed and the archives were opened, it turned out, that all 61 accusations against Stalin were lies. I could bring some from my mind, but writing would be exhaustive. I could reference some books, including the interviews with people who were silenced for the rest of their lives to make Khruschiov look “uncontested”. But I also know of one author, an American historian, whose work is just specialised on this subject. I’ll try to attach it.

    > :churchillsmug:
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