@BowsacNoodle oh they have legitimately occultic beliefs.
As far as I can tell all secret societies rely on in-group transgressions to establish identity and ensure group loyalty.
There seem to be 2 types of fraternal orders operating in the world today. Those that go with the above “Secret Soceity” approach and those that are blatant pyramid schemes.
Something tells me that any well-meaning group of like-minded men would soon be infiltrated and turned into one of the above.
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