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   pistolero (p@fsebugoutzone.org)'s status on Tuesday, 04-Jun-2024 00:36:15 JST pistolero

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   > It's interesting how much the #fediverse is in denial of these things:
   
   I would very much like if you were willing to distinguish between "That is not a concern of mine because it does not interfere with any goal I have." and "I don't think that's real."
   
   > 1. Big Social is bigger for a reason: you can reach audience, share information, and maintain networks. This is what normal people use the internet for.
   
   I am not making a product for them: I am conversing with friends on a federated network. If anything, the Gablin flood proved that this would be a disaster. The normies like using Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and so if I want to address them, I'll go there. I don't want to address them.
   
   I have a mail server, and I have not set up webmail, because everyone that uses that mail server is just fine with IMAP. If you come in and tell me that normies want webmail, and I say that's fine but I do not.
   
   > 2. The Fediverse has failed to attain that status for the same reason FOSS lingers in the dark: they did what they were comfortable doing and went no further.
   
   "If it's not popular, I don't care about it."
   
   Stop trying to YOLD the fedi (it will get you exactly what YOLD got Linux: a bunch of horseshit jammed into an OS that your mom still does not use), but if you're going to, then stop assuming that anyone else has that goal. There's the extremely branding-conscious mastodon.social echo chamber. That is the sort of thing you do if you want to appeal to normies. I'm here, not there, because I don't want to be there: it's not my scene. I like what is here and I would like to improve what is here, not turn it into something else with the hope that it will be enjoyed by people that I don't want to talk to, people that don't show up regardless.
   
   I have typed a variation on that paragraph in nearly every post I have put into this thread. You ignore that and then say "You're all in denial!" We even have a case study: Soapbox. It's the same backend as Pleroma and Akkoma, but no one deploys it aside from people that Gleason has personally persuaded. People outside fedi see "Kirkland Signature Twitter". Trying to appeal to normies creates appeal for no one. Here, here you go: http://meaningness.com/metablog/geeks-mops-sociopaths
   
   > 3. Free speech is a binary. Other than spam and CP, everything has to be included
   
   Well, no argument from me on that point: editorial control over what people can post turns the place into a mall.
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