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@BowsacNoodle @WandererUber @Kirino @WashedOutGundamPilot empiricism and logic is good at making sense of a situation where 20 ravensburger puzzle pieces from different sets are lying on the floor. but when it comes to love, honor, justice, wisdom, faith, beauty, sacred, aesthetics it is wholly inept at making sense of that. quantify love for me, or the beauty of your own race. or the faith and hope you have in the future. or the sacred feeling you know in your bones when you walk in Nature. these are the points that really matter. quantifiableness is an indication of irrelevance and unimportance. might as well try count the number of leaves. when you are correct of their number, what then? nothing. it is not that I am unfamiliar to empiricism. it is that i have moved beyond it. and only use it now sporadically to deconstruct my enemy. like an old tool in my toolbox where i've found far better and more powerful tools. love, honor, justice, wisdom, faith, beauty, sacred, aestheticsa are all part of the infinite and abundant mystery which has no quantity. and it is they that bring joy. not quantity. :vrill:

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