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@wizardyuuka @MuscleOrc1221 Very good question, the ecosystem for EVs is tiny compared to ICEs.

Is also impoverished at least from Tesla where there are horror stories of it taking months to getting replacement parts (which could otherwise be used to make more cars while it’s in the sales tornado and shipping is all that matters).

EVs are also “new things” and thus have different maintenance and repair issues and need some new skills to the existing or to be developed workforce. One of the very biggest issues I hear, which along with the repair delays is causing skyrocketing insurance bills, is that enough of a shock to the vehicle means a complete replacement of its batteries

Because you simply can’t test them to see if ,,, all??? Enough if one catching on fire is contained? (Musk has talked about the latter as I recall came up with the lithium battery pack(s) the 787 uses to save weight.)

And does the design make that cheap enough in labor?? I mean, really, I’d imagine if you design for repairability, required sooner or later replacement, or the likely doomed quick swap idea, there should be a box or two somewhere you can open and slide packs out and in.

And some companies including Tesla make some body parts so big fixing or replacing is … involved. I think that saved their bacon when they were having those terrible assembly line problems, but….

Another company with a truck has what looks like a side panel that can’t be replaced without pulling and reinstalling the front window (!). That may have totaled that vehicle, a 40K US$ parts and labor cost if memory serves (don’t depend on that, it should be easy to look up).

That’s just bad design of a sorts, will likely sort itself out and for now demands research on your part. And see for example the history of the industry shifting to the unibody.

As I understand it there’s a hell of a lot to be said for them, for safety unlike a vehicle build on a couple of steel beams which directly transmits force to the passengers they are designed to progressively crumple and that consumes work in the physics sense. But straightening the out afterwords if the crash is of low enough energy it’s worth it requires some big, specialized equipment.

Doing it all yourself is going to be flatly impossible. Thus I’d recommend @af2 get one of each, like a pickup for the ICE for what it can do that EVs can’t really in practice, and it’s a great way to gain “friends.”

But see the second link, sounds right, and as for those pesky shale “tight” oil investors, they’ve gotten tired of getting reamed in the go-go days, plus higher interest rates on “safe” things like US Treasury instruments means everyone else has to increase their returns to stay viable.

https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Tornado-Strategies-Developing-Hypergrowth/dp/0060745819

https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/shale-not-coming-rescue

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