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   Vistl (vistl@gender.systems)'s status on Thursday, 21-Sep-2023 01:24:29 JST Vistl

   I'm coming at this from a place of not understanding and seeking to understand.

   I don't get the stances against the terms "male/female socialization". People are treated certain gendered ways before they begin to figure out their gender identity and come out. I was treated like a binary gender before I came out, and it meant I was expected to perform certain roles. That has had a influence on me my whole life, sometimes pronounced, sometimes subtle. This doesn't in any way mean that those socializations are permanent marks on anyone's life, and it doesn't make them any less of their real chosen gender.

   Am I using these terms the way that others are? Is there something I'm missing?