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   SlicerDicer (slicerdicer@bikeshed.party)'s status on Sunday, 20-Aug-2023 01:11:22 JST SlicerDicer

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   I will not deny that there is catastrophic events of the past. My grandfather was molded by the dust bowl. My own life was molded by Hurricane Andrew.
   
   That said, this is not just about climate this is about ecosystems. This is about habitat that is beyond our own. I have documented in the last 10 weeks a complete ecosystem collapse occurring.
   
   The denialism will be short lived. The real consequences are coming.
   
   Coral
   Anemone
   Flatworms
   Nudibranch
   Oysters
   Clams
   Scallops
   Sponges
   Seagrass "Halimeda" Incidentally I apparently am one of the first two humans to report bleaching halimeda in the wild. It was only ever in the lab before. I had no idea it could bleach and I am like uhh, I hate to be stupid here but is this bleaching? I was not even sure it was halimeda so I did not say so. But damn what the hell.
   Some Fish
   
   The entire thing is dependent upon zoozanthellea
   
   If the zooz get a bit hot? they start producing more than the metabolic process can handle. These levels rise to the lethal limit and boom. Well coral bleaches the way it does as it can evict the algae and survive as a coping mechanism. More often than not as it seems it turns out to be fatal in cases like this year down here. None of the other species on that list evict, they just fall over and die as far as I understand. The halimeda I see right now? Is 100% dead as its bleached. It does not evict.
   
   Taking into account the above? This is whats known, I do not know if the hydroids bleach, do the man o war bleach? well that is what we will find out as this progresses. What we do not know that we wish we had.
   
   The denialists down here are going full force believe me, its worse now than ever. I see it in the paper, on social media related. That is what is curious. The answer is appearing in front of them and they look at it? Then deny it harder its really something. Some do not, those that do not are then terrified. It might be a coping mechanism at this point.
   
   No I am not a marine biologist, but I know more than most. This is all tempered and filtered information based on what is known and what is not known. The fact is I do not just speculate. I do ask and get answers for what this means.
   
   Let me tell you in the last 10 weeks I have seen more profanity than ever from people who always maintained composure. They are losing their minds as its so out of bound.
   
   For those who do not know? The upper bound limit on this chart is 10 weeks and total kill on the right side DHW. 10 weeks is 100% mortality.
   
   The entire keys has hit 10 weeks now as well as southeast Florida. Well the keys is nearly double the value, anyone who thinks this is ok has been eating lead.