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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Friday, 12-Jan-2024 02:15:50 JST feld
   I tried that Prose XMPP app with my Jabber.org account and it let me login but everything else was broken
   
   so yeah XMPP's going real great in 2024. Only 25 years and still no rich clients
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   feld (feld@bikeshed.party)'s status on Tuesday, 20-Jun-2023 06:04:16 JST feld

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   The idea that there was a community that disappeared is a myth. The same one that always existed is there: the people who really want to use XMPP federation are still using it. People are just mad that a wall went up between them and their non-tech friends and family at Google and Facebook.
   
   The big federated instances like Jabber.org are still around. My account is still there since I first created it in like 2002 or whatever.
   
   But as far as XMPP usage in general goes:
   
   - ProcessOne and other companies specialize in providing XMPP expertise and make plenty of money doing it.
   - Billions of people every day benefit from XMPP being used to transmit data without their knowledge
   - lots of VOIP/SIP things end up using XMPP for the messaging transit
   - WhatsApp is XMPP
   - iMessage is XMPP
   - all push notifications on Apple and Google devices are XMPP (APNS and FCM speak XMPP)
   
   XMPP Federation was a *feature* of the protocol, not a requirement. The same can be said about ActivityPub.