Notices by Abbie Normal (abbienormal@floss.social)

is there any client that keeps track of wich toots I've seen already and wich I haven't yet ?

#fediverse

@cwebber @zenhack

This is awful

I'm sorry 😞

@bugaevc

I suppose this is the confusion about the fact that "Linux" is not a platform

It's a kernel

It seems we haven't got a shared definition of what "Linux" encompasses

Oh well...

#Clojure introduced me to lispy languages

And one of the tools was Emacs Live
https://github.com/overtone/emacs-live

It was a .emacs folder that you could just drop in your home folder and that made Emacs a georgous IDE for Clojure

Requiring people to learn to deal with Emacs before they can write a single line of the language they're approaching is a stupid punishment

I wrote this after reading this thread
https://post.lurk.org/@celesteh/108948006491442054

@maxxcan

Because it is ?

@parasurv @maxxcan

GUI has made computing a mass phenomenon

you're being a bit too fast in condemning it, in my opinion

just because GUIless tools are good for you doen't mean they're good in general

see here
https://floss.social/@abbienormal/108952017802346899

@parasurv @maxxcan

I was thinking of VisyalCode or how it's called

It's a GUI tool used by hordes of programmers

Same goes for PyCharm

Why do they exist ?

Are M$ and Intellij stupid ?

GUI tools are a thing for programmers too

Again: just because the journey offered by Emacs was ok for you that doesn't mean it's ok in general

In fact, it's leaving a ton of people in the dust

And again I would have personally been one of those left in the Dust

@maxxcan @parasurv

No

They use them because the cognitive style of Emacs is not good for everybody

@maxxcan @parasurv

you are a professional among professionals

you used CL tools 20 years ago and you observe professional syadmins

we're obvioulsy not talking about the same target

GUI tools like VisualCode and PyCharm have a reason to exist

it's not only marketing

@maxxcan @parasurv

you seem not ready to accept that GUI tools can introduce naive people to IT

it's not only about education

it's about human nature

many humans find the cognitive style of GNU tools impractical

it's not their fault, as you seem to assume