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@SuperDicq A small tangent on the profits part: profits pay rent and developers. Without profit you can't have any development, including open source development

@SuperDicq Element is a company. Where they invest their dev time into is dictated by the profits they can get, not what you or anyone else thinks is best. Yet they are still doing tons of open source development.

Corporate contexts often _require_ certain features to be proprietary, unfortunately, and I asked for examples to challange this idea.

Electron being shit is mostly a moot point, the element webapp runs on any browser and you can easily self-host it and run it outside of electron.

@SuperDicq the client uses electron for easy compatibility with different OSes. I don't like electron, but that's a sensible choice.

The existence of the proprietary server suite does not decrement the value of the FOSS solution.

Also, can you give some examples of the features included in the proprietary server suite? I'd like to know if any of these makes sense outside of a corporate context.

I don't understand the negativity targeted towards #matrix and #element

I guess it has wide enough adoption that assholes are seeping through the cracks?

Element is a company developing FOSS, selling their product as a service for companies. That is the fairest business model I can think of.

I also understand that matrix is complex, and has issues, and I am the first to suffer through them, but they're doing progress, and fixing stuff.

Plus, if you don't like matrix, just don't use it.