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    • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
    • Tim Bray
    • Adlangx

    @tokyo_0
    If you have a bad actor passkey manager on your device you are screwed anyway, as it could retrieve your totp codes, passwords, etc.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

    In conversation Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 02:33:49 JST from mastodon.social permalink
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    canard164 (canard164@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 02:26:34 JST canard164 canard164
    • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
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    • Adlangx

    @tokyo_0
    You have it but you don't send it so the service as is. You need the second factor to send to the service the challenge answer. At least if user verification is mandatory and your passkey manager is spec-compliant.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

    In conversation Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 02:26:34 JST from mastodon.social permalink
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    • Adlangx

    @tokyo_0
    Passkeys are 2FA so I don't understand. Private key + second factor.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

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    • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
    • Tim Bray
    • Adlangx

    @tokyo_0
    The services you connect to send a unique challenge to your device, per login attempt.
    To solve this challenge, the private key is required. And it is unlock locally by a second factor. For any second factor you choose, what leaves your device is the answer of the challenge, not a secret. Not the private key, not the fingerprint, not the PIN.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

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    canard164 (canard164@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 02:10:51 JST canard164 canard164
    • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
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    • Adlangx

    @tokyo_0
    No solution is perfect and works against all possible threats. Passkeys are designed to protect against the same threats than passwords or 2FA, plus phishing, and without requiring other devices.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

    In conversation Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 02:10:51 JST from gnusocial.jp permalink
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    • Tim Bray
    • Adlangx

    @tokyo_0
    Passkeys have two factors:
    1. possession of the private key
    2. knowledge or biometric factor (pick one) to unlock the private key.
    You need both.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

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    • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
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    • Adlangx

    @tokyo_0
    Yes but you can unlock passkeys with a PIN.
    But I don’t think passkeys are designed for plausible deniability anyway.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

    In conversation Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 01:59:05 JST from gnusocial.jp permalink
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    canard164 (canard164@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 01:52:12 JST canard164 canard164
    • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
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    @tokyo_0
    I liked this article in two parts at the time, maybe it could be useful to you too? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/10/what-passkey
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

    In conversation Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 01:52:12 JST from gnusocial.jp permalink

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      What the !#@% is a Passkey?
      from Jacob Hoffman-Andrews
      A new login technique is becoming available in 2023: the passkey. The passkey promises to solve phishing and prevent password reuse. But lots of smart and security-oriented folks are confused about what exactly a passkey is. There’s a good reason for that. A passkey is in some sense one of two (or three) different things, depending on how it’s stored.
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    • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
    • Tim Bray
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    @tokyo_0
    Usually you are legally compelled to hand over any data unencrypted to customs to pass a border if they ask. Else you cannot enter the country.
    This is true whatever authentication mechanism you choose, passkeys are not better or worse in that regard.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

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    @tokyo_0
    Passkeys don’t protect you physically, neither passwords nor other two-factor authentication mechanisms.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

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    • Tokyo Outsider (337ppm)
    • Tim Bray
    • Adlangx

    @tokyo_0
    With 2FA with one time passcode such as TOTP, SMS, email codes, the user can send this second factor to a hacker who impersonates the service.
    There are bots who receive the one-time code and who then send them to the real site to access to the account.
    Regarding biometry, this is not a requirement. You can unlock a passkey by a pin (or by a schema on your phone) if you wish. Passkeys are designed to be decrypted by the same way you unlock your device.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

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    • Tim Bray
    • Adlangx

    @tokyo_0
    Passkeys are phishing-resistant and two factor authentication other than FIDO hardware keys are not.
    @lightninhopkins @timbray

    In conversation Sunday, 28-Apr-2024 00:19:03 JST from gnusocial.jp permalink

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