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@freemo @LouisIngenthron

Fair enough. I should have asked what was meant. And certainly, attributes like “automatic” or “assault” distort rational exchange — as does “anti-gun-nuts” in the cartoon.

The dissimilarities between the other weapons and guns are imo so striking, that it is hard to really take the cartoon more serious:
You can defend yourself against attacks from the other weapons and the perpetrator needs to approach you closely. Columbine and Utoya would very, very likely not have had casualties anywhere near the ones obtained with other weapons than guns.

What is the likeliness of getting a serious or even fatal wound accidentally from cleaning those other weapons (or tools as you say).

Honestly, that cartoon to me looks as stupid as they can get. And it tries to be “sophisticated” and “clever”—but imho it just is not.

(Interesting, that you claim people would be alive had they carried a gun—I doubt your ability to be simulate alternate real scenarios to a reliable degree here…)

@freemo @LouisIngenthron

My point was beyond that and the argumentation smacked of sophistry imo.

So, you believe that the civilian and recreational use of guns outweighs military and paramilitary training. Interesting. For those “recreational” uses anyway attack rifles and many automatic weapons would likely not make sense.

But then, noboby needs to carry guns in public and guns could be kept locked away at sports clubs for pure and maximized recreational utility?

@freemo @LouisIngenthron

I wonder how many concealed cars we have seen? Thanks to this enlightening discussion I am all convinced now that guns are in fact mainly tools used in physics experiments.

It is interesting how you can always find counterarguments. The more intelligent and creative you are the more adapt you will be at establishing a coherent worldview matching your personal convictions.

The internet is a force for good … ;-)