Notices by ☭ 𝗖 𝗔 𝗧 ☭ (radical_egocom@mastodon.social), page 15

@nullpotential

Not all leftists. Just the ones that either voted third party and especially the ones that didn't vote at all.

@Delphi

They voted third party or didn't vote instead of voting for Harris.

Leftists in America have no sense of self-preservation.

Leftists in America are fucking stupid.

@jlou @tursiops

That's basically the same thing, and either way, it's not a false dichotomy.

@abdullahanam @superluminous

Whether you like it or not, these are the facts: Either Harris or Trump will be president, and Trump is more of a threat than Harris (I'm not saying that Harris also isn't a threat also. I'm saying she's less of a threat, so you don't have to remind me of the horrible things she's done because I already know).

@Hoodedman

Harris is a fascist? Where's your proof?

America is fascist? Where's your proof?

Do you even know what the word "fascist" means, or are you just using the word to refer to when politicians commit horrific atrocities (which isn't what fascism is)?

Fascism actually has a meaning that I don't think you're using or are aware of.

@tursiops

Is capitalism or socialism better? Well, that depends. Better for who? Capitalism is better for the bourgeoisie, but worse for the proletariat, and socialism is better for the proletariat, but worse for the bourgeoisie. In other words, capitalism is better for the minority of rich people, whereas socialism is better for the majority of working class people.

#capitalism #socialism

@jlou @tursiops@tooting.ch

The question isn't a false dichotomy. It's not stating that capitalism and socialism are the only two options, it's just asking the reader which is better between the two, just like how someone asking which is better, apples or oranges, isn't a false dichotomy.

@superluminous

I'm going to go crazy arguing with all of these people.

@krapocho

Then what's your bright idea? What should Americans be doing instead of voting for Harris?

@krapocho

And if Harris wins then the CIA, FBI, etc, will also still be in power, but the president won't be a far-right fascist and will support some policies that will be beneficial to leftists in some ways. There is no way to eradicate fascism right now. This election is about harm reduction, and Harris will be less harmful.

@diffiehellmanstan

My entire claim is that believing things without evidence is not a good thing because if you don't have evidence to prove something true then you won't know if you're belief in it is true or not true, which would cause both minor and major inconveniences in people's lives and communities, and that because of this we should strive to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible, and the best way to do that is to have evidence for our beliefs. Do you agree?

@krapocho

You're speaking as if you don't know a single thing about Trump, his support base, or how the American government works. If you aren't American, learn about American politics before forming an opinion on it. If you are American, then there's no excuse for you to be this clueless.

@Hoodedman @oneoveralpha

I think that these people who wouldn't vote if they couldn't vote for Stein are, simply put, stupid.

Trump attempted to overthow the American government on January 6th and has joked about becoming a dictator. There are many more things that he's guilty of, but these two things alone make him significantly worse than Harris, who, as far as I know, does not want to become a fascist dictator. Are you seriously trying to suggest that Trump is worse than Harris?

@zassenhaus

You haven't misunderstood anything. That's all correct.

@Hoodedman @oneoveralpha

My "way of thinking" is just stating facts. It is a fact that Jill Stein is not going to become president. It is a fact that either Harris or Trump are going to become president. It is a fact that third party voters refusing to vote for Harris and instead choosing to vote for their third party candidate will make it more likely that Trump will win due to Harris having less votes then she would have if third party voters decided to vote for her.

@krapocho

All of these horrible things still doesn't make Democrats equal to the Republicans in "evilness" because not only have the Republicans done similar things and likely would do the same things, but when it comes to domestic policy the Democrats tend to be more left-leaning than the Republicans, making Democrats less harmful to the American public than Republicans from a left-leaning perspective, making it more tactically smart to support the Democrats over the Republicans.

Whatever happens in these Elections, we can all see Fascism has arrived in the USA and that means the end of #Capitalism as we know it is not far behind.
So now is perhaps a good time to look at what that #PostCapitalism world may look like. #USpol
https://mayflybooks.org/future-for-all-a-vision-for-2048/

@MrLee

It isn't necessarily true that with the rise of fascism comes the end of capitalism. Did fascism not arise in Germany, Italy, and Spain? Yes, they did. And are those countries not still capitalist? Yes, they are. Fascism rising in a country only means that there is a possibility of capitalism being abolished, but it is no guarantee. A strong Socialist Party with enormous support from the public is one factor that must be met to guarantee the abolition of capitalism.