OH: "Es verhält sich wie eine Naturwissenschaft, also ist es eine Naturwissenschaft"
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OH: Hast du Fetlife oder Linkedin?
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ruru4143 🏰 (ruru4143@graz.social)'s status on Tuesday, 13-Aug-2024 23:09:20 JST ruru4143 🏰
Ich in der Caritas: "Wos isn euer Kilopreis für Besteck?" #håckmas
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ruru4143 🏰 (ruru4143@graz.social)'s status on Friday, 07-Jun-2024 23:52:16 JST ruru4143 🏰
OH: Spaghetti code auf systemlevel
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ruru4143 🏰 (ruru4143@graz.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Mar-2024 09:06:43 JST ruru4143 🏰
@thomasfuchs (maybe you could even argue that a photographer is also only selecting an image out of an meaningless world. They create the meaning through interpreting this world only guided by physics)
as a reminder: i would consider 99,9% of the images generated by AI and published somewhere **not** art. And exploitation.
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ruru4143 🏰 (ruru4143@graz.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Mar-2024 09:04:49 JST ruru4143 🏰
@thomasfuchs If i give you 1 million images and ask you to pick the best.
Does the selected image reflect something on the personality or creativity of you?I would say yes. Because you as selector are interpreting the image. The AI does generate something meaningless, as you said, "just [...] stuff from it's corpus". But you selected one specific image, because of reasons.
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ruru4143 🏰 (ruru4143@graz.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Mar-2024 08:47:05 JST ruru4143 🏰
@thomasfuchs fair argument, but i disagree.
The camera doesn't create the photo/art.
If i go out to do some photos, the photos are created in my mind before i touch my camera. Sometimes my tool doesn't allow the image i imagined to be created.
then i must rethink the Photo.If you watch the video of the cosmopolitan AI cover creator, you will see how they imagine something. How their tool doesn't allow their imagination to be created. then they must rethink their work.
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ruru4143 🏰 (ruru4143@graz.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Mar-2024 08:47:04 JST ruru4143 🏰
@thomasfuchs
I'm not arguing on an STEM level. Not about photons or algorithms (btw most camera use a ton of algorithms to create things that aren't photons, not even talking about post editing). I'm arguing on an level of the artistic process one goes through. -
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ruru4143 🏰 (ruru4143@graz.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Mar-2024 08:23:37 JST ruru4143 🏰
@thomasfuchs I would disagree with you.
1. Art is created by humans
2. Drawing something doesn't (automatically) create art
- independent of the tool
- same for e.g. photographing something
3. Creating art is a special human process of imagination
4. AI can be used as a tool to create art.
Just typing words into a prompt doesn't create art.
Most things called "AI art" are just randomly prompted pictures and therefore not art.