@AnarchoNinaWrites yes, and also this is why I sometimes reply to people who don't particularly seem open to discussion. My mom drives every day and believes that is fine; when seeing a dude yelling at me about 'crosswalks near schools are the problem and kids shouldn't be allowed to walk to school without adult supervision' she begins to understand that there's a problematic portion of drivers she doesn't encounter as a driver. I don't need strawmen there's real trollmen willing to argue it - and usually the argument comes back to eugenics.