@3 but yes, we cant really conceive of incest without child molestation / grooming bcs at every level its inextricable, even between a fully consenting mother and son both of age there's a lifetime of grooming in advance of it happening. Between a sibling and a younger sibling too, the plurality of self reported csa cases are of underage kids having sex with and then raping another underage kid, with the legalisation of incest it just becomes a case of hiding it until adulthood, and then revealing their "new" fully legal relationship to the world. Iirc i laid this out at some point in the thread but buried behind a load of other replies.