Jon (jdp23@neuromatch.social)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jun-2025 19:05:29 JST

Thanks @tchambers ...

but the protocols themselves the platforms use must support privacy moderation by other members of the Open Social Web.

That's very different than your earlier definition of "respects your privacy".

Agreed, though, that with this revised definition, ti's clear that privacy-violating apps like Threads and non-consensual ActivityPub search engines which are built on top of protocols that allow others to respect privacy if they want to, are part of the Open Social Web.

(On the other hand, AT Proto is all-public and doesn't support privacy moderation, so this revised definition seems to rule out Bluesky.)

Mastodon.oneline and mastodon.social aren't the whole Actiivtypub Fediverse

True but your definition says that the Open SOcial Web is made up of independent communities, and they aren't independent from each other. I guess you could change the definition to be just "connected communities " whether or not they're independent.

But do you really want to define it in terms of communities? Communities by definition involve multiple people, so this rules out single-user instances. And what about an instance that only hosts bots, not people?

For indieweb.social: all users on that platform can move to others that have moderation policies they prefer or start their own.

Again I think you've changed the definition here, from "users decide socnet interactions" to "users can create accounts on some other site."

XMPP if it bridges to open social web

No, I'm talking about just XMPP on its own. XMPP is an open protocol that supports privacy. XMPP servers are independent and connected. People who don't like one XMPP server can create another. So even if they don't bridge, it seems to me that by your definition XMPP servers are part of the Open Social Web. And the same goes for email, RSS, etc.

Which is fine if that's your intent, it's a coherent definition, I'm just not sure that's how most people use the term. Flipboard's Surf has one of the broader defintiions I've seen

Surf gives users the power to search the entire open social web and quickly add favorite sources from Bluesky, Threads or Mastodon, community hashtags, RSS feeds, podcasts and YouTube channels to their own custom feed.

and it does include RSS whether or not it's bridged, but it doesn't include XMPP or email