@CN32 I despise those things. I love real motorcycles and real bicycles, and those trendy electrics are the enemies of both. Everyone who rides those is antisocial and shows no signs of having been any kind of cyclist or biker before they bought their ludicrously expensive little ride on Amazon.

Sur Rons and copycats are just awful. Stark Future make full-on dirt bikes, so at least their riders are out where they normally should be, doing normal things, but I completely reject that electric is in any way more efficient than combustion, and I think it's more dangerous, too.