@p @jae @nigvids It just depends on how granular you get in your HBD spergery. The primary reason to insist on excluding Ashkenazi and Khazars is the "fellow white people" / "I'm not white I'm Jewish" shtick (hah I'm using a Yiddish word), which I'm sure you're familiar with. They insist on self separation and retain their ethnic self-interest, yet they're often happy to appear as any other White person when it's advantageous. It's like the feminist who won't object to men dying to protect them and other chivalrous acts, but without the reciprocal altruism that generally comes about at the super social level. Genetically, there are probably notable differences, but I don't care enough to spend time looking into that.