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@susankayequinn
I agree, with this bit of nuance:

It’s not just about convincing people that they’re the bad guys in terms of making bad decisions; the idiotic damage they do is a large part of their selling point. It’s about making them uncomfortable and vaguely humiliating to be associated with. Not so much “bad guys” as “losers.”

I still maintain that one of the few things that would instantly hurt Trump’s reputation with his supporters is being subjected to middle-school-style public physical humiliation, like being pantsed on live TV. Like the dog getting his head stuck in the “Cone of Shame” in Up.