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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://infosec.exchange/users/deFractal/statuses/114390499138089669">David (defractal@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 24-Apr-2025 11:45:50 JST</a><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@deFractal" title="defractal@infosec.exchange"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/theme/gnusocialjp/default-avatar-stream.png" width="48" height="48" alt="David" style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">David</a><div><a href="https://c.im/@cdarwin/114385395886038720" rel="in-reply-to">in reply to</a><ul><li></ul></div></section><article><p><a href="https://c.im/@cdarwin">@cdarwin</a> IANAL, but from what I've seen of US case law, when police fail to self-identify as such and, while not recognizably police, impose imminent risk death or grievous bodily harm (which is generally presumed in cases of kidnapping), if the attacked person survives police-gang revenge, the trial outcome usually depends on the race of the person asserting self-defence to excuse use of lethal force against an assailant. <br><a href="https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/texas-no-knock-swat-raid/" rel="nofollow">https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/texas-no-knock-swat-raid/</a></p><p>However, there was one at least one exception case: that of Cory Maye.<br><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Maye" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Maye</a></p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/4937691#notice-9685140">In conversation</a><time datetime="2025-04-24T11:45:50+09:00" title="Thursday, 24-Apr-2025 11:45:50 JST">about 4 days ago</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@deFractal/114390499138089669" rel="external" title="Sent from infosec.exchange via ActivityPub">infosec.exchange</a></span></span><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@deFractal/114390499138089669">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><label><a rel="external" href="https://gnusocial.jp/attachment/4515454">Untitled attachment</a></label><br></li><li><article><header><div>Domain not in remote thumbnail source whitelist: login.wikimedia.org</div><h5><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Maye">Cory Maye</a></h5><div></div></header><div>Cory Jermaine Maye (born September 9, 1980) is a former prisoner. He was originally convicted of murder in the 2001 death of Prentiss, Mississippi, police officer Ron W. Jones, during a drug raid on the other half of Maye's duplex.
Maye has said he thought that the intruders were burglars and did not realize they were police. He pleaded not guilty at his trial, citing self-defense. Nevertheless, Maye was convicted of murder and was sentenced to death. The case attracted little attention until late 2005, when Reason magazine senior editor and police misconduct researcher Radley Balko brought it to light on his blog The Agitator.
Balko's research raised several questions about Maye's conviction and in particular about the reliability of medical examiner Steven Hayne, who performed the autopsy on Jones and testified at the trial. According to Maye's supporters, his conviction also brought up issues such as the right to self-defense, police conduct in the War on Drugs, racial and social inequities in Mississippi and whether he received competent legal representation.
On September 21, 2006, Maye's death sentence was...</div><footer></footer></article></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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David (defractal@infosec.exchange)'s status on Thursday, 24-Apr-2025 11:45:50 JSTDavid
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@cdarwin IANAL, but from what I've seen of US case law, when police fail to self-identify as such and, while not recognizably police, impose imminent risk death or grievous bodily harm (which is generally presumed in cases of kidnapping), if the attacked person survives police-gang revenge, the trial outcome usually depends on the race of the person asserting self-defence to excuse use of lethal force against an assailant.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/10/texas-no-knock-swat-raid/
However, there was one at least one exception case: that of Cory Maye.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cory_Maye
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  Cory Jermaine Maye (born September 9, 1980) is a former prisoner. He was originally convicted of murder in the 2001 death of Prentiss, Mississippi, police officer Ron W. Jones, during a drug raid on the other half of Maye's duplex. Maye has said he thought that the intruders were burglars and did not realize they were police. He pleaded not guilty at his trial, citing self-defense. Nevertheless, Maye was convicted of murder and was sentenced to death. The case attracted little attention until late 2005, when Reason magazine senior editor and police misconduct researcher Radley Balko brought it to light on his blog The Agitator. Balko's research raised several questions about Maye's conviction and in particular about the reliability of medical examiner Steven Hayne, who performed the autopsy on Jones and testified at the trial. According to Maye's supporters, his conviction also brought up issues such as the right to self-defense, police conduct in the War on Drugs, racial and social inequities in Mississippi and whether he received competent legal representation. On September 21, 2006, Maye's death sentence was...

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