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@inthehands didn’t we already have a problem with more and more programmers avoiding that kind of wrestling? Between the hype about high paying jobs and the economic context squeezing everyone harder to the point where an ordinary job can barely support a single person, my sense of it has been that what was once a small group of people inclined to focus on that part has been overtaken by a much larger group more interested in a better wage, whether by necessity or by disposition