@PurpCat Depends. Consumer garbage doesn't last more than 4 years before you start to see annoying faults anyway. So that's out the question. And larger businesses will probably still rotate devices rather quickly and dump them to e-waste (that's where he buys all the machines to refurbish). Where people will likely want to hold onto older hardware are those people that wanted to upgrade, but still don't necessarily need to. Remember, we live in a consoomer economy where having the latest iToddler devices really matters to the average normie.