@drew @drew I don't know. I think I like the phone the company I work for carries. it is the smart vision 3, and while it is only running android 11, and it isn't a blazingly fast phone, you get the best of both worlds. you can use the touch screen, or the buttons on it. sadly not all of the talkback jesture work, as you can't do like a three finger single, or double tap on it, but still I like havbing both the touch screen, and the buttons. I have never seen the blind shell three, but would love to, but probibly won't happen as I don't go anywhere. lol, but it does sound like an interesting phone.