@mistergibson @Savvyhomestead

As for why I avoid Signal. Other than the obvious things such as mandatory phone number requirements which is discriminatory against people that doesn't have phone number and also paradoxically very privacy unfriendly, the founder has a strong opinion in favor of centralization and has repeatedly showed an anti federation discourse over the years, given how Signal is designed it seems consistent with the kind of culture the project has as "convenient solution to a complex problem". I don't trust snake oil sellers, their clients being free software (which I doubt, requires investigation) means nothing if the server is in hands of a single company or organization.