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@pixelschubsi @kkarhan @signalapp @monocles @lauren But again, hiding essential metadata that takes hard cryptographic routing work to hide is way above the scope of the class of messengers we're comparing.

The claim is not that Signal makes it impossible to recover some of this essential metadata. The claim is that it is not purposefully scooping up as much other private data as it can for an owner whose whole business model is scooping up personal data.