@mini @GossiTheDog My main rig has a 5950x and it is ridiculous how power efficient it is compared to today's high end CPUs. They redlines power and thermal budgets to the max with the last few generations of CPU and the power and cooling requirements are pretty awful. I don't know how anyone uses these things without a big AIO. Keep seeing companies selling things like 14900 crammed into SFF systems and you just know that is going to thermal throttle in like 2 seconds of load.