I appreciate you pointed out actual existent bases to build from like Massie rather than the normal response people give.
I dont get the feeling that a large number of people here like trump or think he is on our side, people are just starved for any sign of any effective pushback on any issue after 80+ years of totally controlled opposition claiming theres nothing they can do. I think people like Trump/Musk/Vance have unintentionally opened the door to more radical future attempts at governmental/cultural change.
The issue continues to be that if you want to play ball in American politics you have to subvert one of the two bought out parties, any outside party push has historically been dead before it started.