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@be in any case, as I say in https://davelane.nz/proprietary, if we're dealing with proprietary clients that we can't build ourselves with a full tool change we can verify ourselves, we're forced to put our trust in 3rd parties with every interest in betraying us if that increases shareholder value. That, to me, is an oppressive liability, which is why, to the extend I can, I avoid being subjected to it.