@Snidely_Whiplash Yeah I remember when they were intubating EVERYONE and Trump said "We can't get enough ventilators" and that was killing all the elderly etc - having been intubated myself now, I understand why.

It's WAY more invasive than it seems.

Imagine being 80, getting covid, being intubated and then that starts you down the road of pneumonia - of course they were fucking dying.