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<blockquote style="position: relative; padding-left: 55px;"><section><a href="https://mstdn.social/users/rysiek/statuses/113832271261506146">Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 21:03:45 JST</a><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek" title="rysiek@mstdn.social"><img src="https://gnusocial.jp/avatar/13472-48-20221025105231.webp" width="48" height="48" alt='Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦' style="position: absolute; left: 0; top: 0;">Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦</a><div><a href="https://gnusocial.jp/notice/8563521" rel="in-reply-to">in reply to</a><ul><li></ul></div></section><article><p><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@dymaxion">@dymaxion</a> I had some words with them / about them back in 2022:<br><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109219781174331193" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109219781174331193</a><br><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109245080584180308" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109245080584180308</a></p><p>tl;dr they claim they are decentralized because blockchain, but the org reaping the big rewards is (was?) hard-coded. 🤡</p></article><footer><a rel="bookmark" href="https://gnusocial.jp/conversation/4378438#notice-8563522">In conversation</a><time datetime="2025-01-15T21:03:45+09:00" title="Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 21:03:45 JST">about 4 months ago</time> <span>from <span><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/113832271261506146" rel="external" title="Sent from mstdn.social via ActivityPub">mstdn.social</a></span></span><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/113832271261506146">permalink</a><h4>Attachments</h4><ol><li><article><header><div>No result found on File_thumbnail lookup.</div><h5><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109219781174331193">Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (@rysiek@mstdn.social)</a></h5><div> from <span>Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦</span></div></header><div>Hey @session@mastodon.social , Session IM is running on the #Oxen network, right? From the docs:&gt; The non for profit Oxen Privacy Tech Foundation receives a governance reward of 9240 $OXEN every 7 days. This reward is used to pay for development, marketing, and community projects, more information about how the Oxen treasury and governance reward is managed can be found on the OPTF website.
https://docs.oxen.io/about-the-oxen-blockchain/oxen-token-economicsIf I am reading this right, this would mean that it is *hard-coded* that OPTF gets this reward.In other words, if I wanted to use #SessionIM, but for whatever reason had a problem with OPTF's politics or actions or whatever, it would be *impossible* for me to use Session (or, say, a compatible independent client) in a way that would preclude OPTF from getting this "governance reward"?Am I reading this right?</div><footer></footer></article></li><li><article><header><div>No result found on File_thumbnail lookup.</div><h5><a href="https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109245080584180308tl;dr">Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (@rysiek@mstdn.social)</a></h5><div> from <span>Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦</span></div></header><div>@session@mastodon.social that was not my question.My question was: if I move to Session and move all my friends there, and *then* the OPTF does something I strongly disagree with, will there be a way to continue to use Session *without* using nodes that financially support OPTF, without moving everyone over to some other solution?If an XMPP server operator does something bad, I can move but stay in touch. Same with fediverse instances. Is that possible at all with Session?</div><footer></footer></article></li></ol></footer></blockquote>

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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦 (rysiek@mstdn.social)'s status on Wednesday, 15-Jan-2025 21:03:45 JSTMichał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦
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@dymaxion I had some words with them / about them back in 2022:
https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/109219781174331193
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tl;dr they claim they are decentralized because blockchain, but the org reaping the big rewards is (was?) hard-coded. 🤡
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  Hey @session@mastodon.social , Session IM is running on the #Oxen network, right? From the docs: > The non for profit Oxen Privacy Tech Foundation receives a governance reward of 9240 $OXEN every 7 days. This reward is used to pay for development, marketing, and community projects, more information about how the Oxen treasury and governance reward is managed can be found on the OPTF website. https://docs.oxen.io/about-the-oxen-blockchain/oxen-token-economics If I am reading this right, this would mean that it is *hard-coded* that OPTF gets this reward. In other words, if I wanted to use #SessionIM, but for whatever reason had a problem with OPTF's politics or actions or whatever, it would be *impossible* for me to use Session (or, say, a compatible independent client) in a way that would preclude OPTF from getting this "governance reward"? Am I reading this right?
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  @session@mastodon.social that was not my question. My question was: if I move to Session and move all my friends there, and *then* the OPTF does something I strongly disagree with, will there be a way to continue to use Session *without* using nodes that financially support OPTF, without moving everyone over to some other solution? If an XMPP server operator does something bad, I can move but stay in touch. Same with fediverse instances. Is that possible at all with Session?

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