@atlas Guess you hallucinated doing that, I do remember installing those updates that enabled you to actually use Windows Update around 2021 [maybe 2020? I signed up to the MSFN forum around that time and while I can't remember how I found out about MSFN it almost certainly had something to do with Vista] and I remember it just constantly failing. Then looking around a bit more and finding out the update servers had been shut down just months earlier. It's literally been years..