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@Gnuxie
Mmm, so my proximal thought that dragged me into this was reconciling clojure-style transducers with Waters' Series (in the curse, the comparison is lisp Series and Haskell). I wanted lisp to have the-best-thing, and it was unclear to me what that meant. Maybe wanting other people to agree with me or wanting to agree with others about what the-best-thing is is the mistake.

One product of the flame wars was that Series, generators and gatherers did become friends, eventually.
@hayley