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@craignicol I honestly don't think so, or I wouldn't be talking the way I am.

The shape of the problem is: the fossil fuels have to go, the capitalism (both in terms of pre-existing wealth, and wealth generation for billionaires and the ruling class) DEPENDS on the fossil fuels so the capitalism has to go, and finally the ruling class order is not going to let you end capitalism without enacting violence to prevent it; this will never be on the ballot.

So? It's revolution or die. Pretty sure.