i think enough people know how to counter the edge push at this point that kyuukenbisya is no longer usable /at all/ against huribisya

8二 :sg_g_s: / 2八 :sg_s_s: completely shuts it down, no way around it

>yeah but i can still use it as a feint and change it to sangenbisya/nakabisya after luring their pieces to defend the edge
if they're doing huribisya they're just going to build kinmusou anyway. also you're down by two moves and your :sg_s_l: is now floating. massive cope

time will tell to see if it still has any chance against ibisya but it's pretty much halfway done at this point