@NonPlayableClown @p @vic Its abysmal. It's even worse with the infosec dorks. Everyone wants to do "muh cybersecurity" now.

I met a guy in DC that making 6 figures as some kind of bullshit security consultant and the tool didn't have a clue what I was talking about when I started asking questions.

I had a chick say to me one time "coding is for developers you don't need that in security"

I swear all they do around here is sit around at meet-ups (the bar) and talk about the infosec community, whatever that is or shit about getting more women into the field.

meanwhile the Chinese are eating our lunch