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- Embed this noticeThat is my point. Their entire perception of reality is so vastly different from ours. It is like someone with an IQ of 120 vs 100 vs 80. Those three groups have such insanely different realities that they could never be reconciled. The most devout seethoid leftists cannot be saved or changed unless they experience something truly profound and seek that change themselves. External motivation isn't going to do that, and I doubt they will seek said changes themselves.