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> js frameworks don't mean you can't do stuff on the server anymore though.
I know. But it's mostly to compensate for latency and related issues that were created by their own front-end code. Meanwhile HTML templates have been a thing for well over 20 years already. There's nothing really new or revolutionary about it that you couldn't achieve with some engineering in the first place. Slashdot for example has been doing that forever using Perl, which is widely regarded as one of the slowest scripting languages out there. And yet there's this thing called the "Slashdot effect" which they themselves never succumbed to.