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@lxo @chaz AFAICT even OSI recognizes this. Their main arguments against mandating training data in OSAID are of a pragmatic nature, related to (1) the current state of the industry, (2) the legal regimes that apply to data, which are different from those of (free) software.

I disagree with the decision taken based on those arguments, but I understand them. Either way, they don't call into question the fact that training data is *better* than no training data to exercise user freedoms.