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EvilSandmich (evilsandmich@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Nov-2024 01:09:25 JSTEvilSandmich @sickburnbro I was unable to find it on his site, but Derbyshire had a (of course) Chinese parable related to this. It went that a man's family was suffering through yet another Chinese famine and their stretched resources were covering the care of his decrepit father. The man put his father in a box and resolved to dump the box over the cliff. As he was about to do so his father said "Wait! Keep the box, your son will need it".