@DC5FAN @Paultron @Shadowbroker2135 @LostShakerOfSalt Sometimes I wear them when I'm with the climbers. The people with money don't expect it and don't wear them. Last time I met with a big stakeholder, he had jeans, basketball shoes, and a hoodie on and he's got a personal networth of 9 digits. Meanwhile, I was in a sportcoat and chinos and got called overdressed. :whyMelt: