@meso They are all almost fully French cars. Only the engine electronics are likely made by Bosch. The only German car manufacturer Stellantis owns (Citroen, Peugeot owner along with many others) is Opel and those also became fully French cars. Only thing Opel makes are _some_ of the engines and slightly redesigned bodies. Almost nothing from the old GM Opel remains.

They all had serious reliability issues in the past and Renault had one until recently with it's TCe engines that exploded after few thousand km.

Almost all of the also look ugly, because they all want to be unique from others and can't manage to actually finish the design into something nice looking.
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