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Walz came across as a normal human man who cares about the country and the world who wants to trust women to make their own decisions.

Vance came across as a Corporate CEO mansplaining to America why price gouging is a good thing and that random people that live inside the same state border you happen to should decide who has a baby and how.

Beyond that, if you can’t answer who won the 2020 election and say you’d vote to certify it even if you lose, you lost your debate.