@Witch_Hunter_Siegfired @LivingSpaceStudios @Griffith @MechaSilvio @racs @PraxisOfEvil That's what I'm saying though - this isn't how things work, it's not now politics works at all.

For instance: look how the radical left took power - it took 100 years of them killing dukes, writing books, pushing for revolutions, dying.

The closest to that is J6, and all those people are voting for Trump.

If you wish to have a hand in how society is run, you can't sit on your hands and say "everything will change after X,Y or Z"

This is why I mention rules for radicals frequently, your beliefs are something that the vast majority of society would not even repeat outloud without fear of reprisal. One way to change that is how the left changed it. There are possibly others, but this isn't one.