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@ajroach42 @sam But is the core of the issue then the fact that we don't know what data and models prowritingaid is using, or the fact that they (I think genuinely) do so out of wanting to make writing more accessible?

We can (easily, I see your point for sure) agree to disagree, and I apologize if I came in barging in a thread that was more for venting, but I do think of LLMs as assistive technology *and* see a lot of ableism/classism in the categorical rejection of LLMs I encounter.