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@Lyude @lina @desttinghim If we take Rust out of the equation and look at any other large scale modernization effort, we see pretty much the same problems.

I like to pick on folios because I'm mostly a storage guy, but that transition has been long and painful because there's fundamentally no real leadership in Linux. A lot of storage developers just cannot handle working in an organized fashion.

DRM is the most organized subsystem and even it suffers through these kinds of problems.