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Looking for 2nd opinions because I guess something doesn't seem right.

Will rewrite this in a few mins as I balance some other stuff but do prepare your own thoughts...

❓ Why if people care (and I think they do but just not as much as I - if at all) do people not write things more clearly in defence of what is happening or going to happen eventually. The topic is data scraping The Fediverse so
➡️ if it's not clear on our side
➡️ if they don't make it obvious as an instance how can they even say they are against it or complain big companies ignore us...

When people say 0 or even worse they say they are against something but don't do the simple things, it seems a bit suspicious after a while...

Again trying not to chase my own tail her and will give some more context so it's not too general.

CONTEXT = DATA IS BEING SCRAPING FROM OUR ACCOUNTS AND MY ADMIN WON'T PUT A SIGN

It's not a big drama but I'm still adamant it's a massive error / big problem of abuse. Why wouldn't you put a disclaimer on your own instance like it was your own website? Something to say "no commercial usage or processing allowed" or "creative commons not for commercial usage" "copyright" etc etc,,,

My admin says robots ignore it anyway but that's besides the point of putting a human readable sign on your own front door or shop window saying that you do not consent to your instance and users data being scraped - and to at least says so or ask users.

My admin mentions that a lot of people want coverage being on the net but scraping is not the same or right kind of coverage so I exclude that as reasoning (correctly or not) trying not to assume too much - but there more reasons too like:

why would they take notice if you don't write it there ?

If historically or say in court you go back in time and look to see there is no sign of a "no consent" then you would agree the person(s) didn't care too much for it or know it existed but did little.

In the past month alone 2 big projects have been scraping millions of profiles - one individual alone for a test project and one as corporate entity.

The corporate one is alone terrible if not Google or something doing things for their search engine or whatever.
Almost all of us come FROM those types of platform to get away so not saying seems frankly stupid (opposite our primary goals and directives)

The phrase "give them an inch and they might take your whole life and download it for their own commercial activity" comes to mind. Why do I only feel or see that it seem - anyone else?
#MeToo ? lol (not sure it's the right MeToo but anyway Scrape has the word rape in it so I do feel scRaping people's profile is digitally similar)

Individuals innocently doing a project is also a danger (what's to stop me?) and even if I can forgive that person (many didn't) I still think "no means no" even to things added or offered here "publicly" but could be said as disclaimer you're unhappy about data being collected and becoming something else. SO ok I added it to my profile but why not the instance covering everyone.

The whole logic of "they are ignoring us anyway" so don't put a sign on you own shop window might be as good as asking people not to steal or download it for commercial use but it is crazy / slack it seems not to ask even robber or rapers to kindly see that it's not what you would like and take the time to say BEFOREHAND.

I might like to say "I'll just scrape my own instance to prove this" and think about what I mean but if I don't do it someone else will so maybe I should... is a distraction of an ending but Hmm #QOTO is too quiet / lacking direction anyway it seems... people need enemies to get them together... though not suggesting me to teach. Right now Question Others To Teach Oneself is the way for now but not just that passively for the way forever I think... we must do

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And further distraction
for myself to consider looking at other things as indicators...

➡️ Admin Freemo is ok with AI
➡️ Admin Freemo not big into improving people as the main work in life (no use have "even more super tech" if everyone hasn't learnt how to express / communicate / feel ok with others / enjoy people / not hate. So doing this "the people work" or even therapy sounds odd but if for the way - hard if you're a data scientist or anything STRONG in other ways (why would you focus on caring for the individual human as you "systems thinking" answer -

I remember now to write about "systems" and "tech" by default always leveraging and needing imbalancing (heavy metals, resources, intensive initial energy, etc) in order to achieve what seems 'efficient' after - so if we "CARE" or respect life - we have to admit the tower PC's needed a lot of damage and mental on it's own and even small stuff now similarly or more precious metal...

ultimately a scientist might not be able to accept or leave his love for saving mankind in the material and emotional sense of sorting people and nature out but doing more of the things we're not doing like individual respect / listening / helping smaller humble human projects...

ok will rewrite this soon but any notes you write in reply I'll try keep