So, when I talk to men I tend to gently introduce concepts around how I fight oppression in technical space, particularly patriarchy.
And they tend to, inevitably, unconsciously? center their pain around how classism oppresses them.
Because class is the vector of oppression that cis white men understand.
What really gets me though is how BLIND they are to other vectors.
I get that, I'm slower at pointing out racism.
But I SEE it. It is MADDENING how BLIND most men choose to be.