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Transcript of CounterSpin's interview with Phyllis Bennis:

"There's this claim that the occupation of Gaza ended in 2005, when the settlers and the soldiers were pulled out. That's not true, because the definition of occupation in international law is not the presence of settler colonies, physically, or the presence of soldiers on the territory. It's about control."

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