@Electronwarrior yea that does jump out at me. But the lack of immediate bleeding from a cartilege injury jumps out more. A small squib with bloodpack, movie style, would cause the reaction, even knowing its there I would think. But whatever the case, I just am not convinced he got hit. If Im wrong Im wrong, but thats where im at. Would think there would be a lot more phone video from behind. Where's all that which could let us get a better look?